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Tuesday 7 July 2015

Hun Sen asks UN for help on Vietnam problem


Prime Minister Hun Sen has called on United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to provide original, constitutionally mandated maps of Cambodia's disputed border with Vietnam.


School of Vice: This is about the least sensible thing this regime can do - on the face of it! Why bother to have your country's map deposited at the UN in the first place when you are inclined to entrust the entire demarcation process to the use of a map [or maps] duplicated on the original and printed in a country with whom your country shares this border line of over a thousand kilometers? It wouldn't be shocking if all the stone border markers [eagerly paid for by Vietnam to speed up the process] planted so far will have been verified to have all located at some hundreds of meters or even kilometers deep inside Cambodian territory on the basis of the original map. 

Mind you, the UN along with other signatories to the PPA have not been quite principled or scrupulous themselves either in terms of offering a helping hand to a much maligned state sandwiched between powerful ones in Thailand and Vietnam - they all have been quick to act in condemnation of the Cambodian Opposition's otherwise legitimate role in questioning the all too cosy conducts and arrangements between Hanoi and Phnom Penh, or at any rate, suspecting them [Opposition] of causing turmoil for own political capital making. 

This dubious stance even extends to the use of the term "Yuon" [a word that is otherwise as neutral and casual as the term "Khmer" in the Cambodian tongue] by some opposition politicians [and frequently by supporters, apologists and ruling figures of the CPP itself] through the misplaced perception that the term's usage carries "derogatory" connotations towards Vietnam and the Vietnamese whilst Hanoi's and its satellite regime's atrocities and grievous rights abuses have frequently drawn no more than lip-service from the outside world. Thus, complaining of this general unhelpful attitude, the deputy leader of the CNRP - Kem Sokha - recently remarked on his overseas trip: 'We are not even allowed to use the word "yuon" ' - to refer to the yuon!  

Actually, this is about doing the right thing for the nation and people of Cambodia, and not about national prejudice, racial incitement, extremism or any thing else one could think of. For the right things to be done in all matters of public substance or relevance, there must be transparency and accountability, and thus far we have not been satisfied that this has been demonstrated to be the case. To the contrary, the entire demarcation procedure is shrouded in utter secrecy, reeking of foul play and national betrayal. It has now transpired that prior to the recent public admission by Hor Nam Hong [Foreign Affairs Minister] Phnom Penh had in fact lodged a number of complaints via its embassy in Hanoi in recent years over Vietnam's territorial infringements, and one would imagine that these amicable [but completely ineffective] diplomatic notes - whilst your nation's territorial integrity is being violated in broad daylight - would have continued to be lodged had it not been for the brave and conscientious effort and persistence of a handful of ordinary Cambodian citizens and opposition activists now portrayed and condemned yet again as "extremists" and "trouble-makers". 

Any of us who have been following Vietnam's tussle with China over territorial disputes in the SCS would have noted the former's open and public statement of grievances and practical intents towards Beijing that also entail the widely reported resolve/threat of the Vietnamese to bring the Chinese government before an internal arbitration tribunal of some sort. Surely, this kind of response is only appropriate and befitting of any nation or country confronted with similar woes? Well, no, according to Mr Hong and Co: You are weak and vulnerable to the threats and abuses posed by your more powerful neighbours, so all that you could do would be to lodge only polite, quiet complaints and hope the rest of the outside world learn nothing of your grievances and at the same while pray that your tormentors will eventually acquire enlightenment, attain grace, reform their conduct and act civilised towards you in contravention of all their known behavioural patterns shown in the past and present! At least, that would appear to be the underlying reasoning. 

NB: Hopefully, the original map now held at the UN is 'digitalised' and safely archived somewhere before or if it is to be handed over to the Phnom Penh regime. Just in case! 

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Mon, 6 July 2015
Shaun Turton ppp

Prime Minister Hun Sen has written to United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, requesting access to the original, constitutionally mandated maps of Cambodia’s borders, following weeks of tension with Vietnam over the eastern frontier.

In a letter dated July 6, the prime minister requests to borrow the original Bonne map, scale 1/100,000, which was developed between 1933 and 1955 by French colonial authorities and deposited by late King Norodom Sihanouk with the UN in 1964.

Noting that Sihanouk’s efforts to ensure the Kingdom’s border was respected, Hun Sun tells Ban Ki-moon the government needs the maps to “verify” its ongoing demarcation process and “end the incitement of extreme nationalism” by “some quarters” in Cambodia that “may lead to catastrophe” for Cambodia, a reference to the opposition’s recent push to highlight alleged encroachment by Vietnam.

The request is made "with the intention to clearly confirm about the scrupulous and righteousness of the Royal Government of Cambodia’s determination and implementation of the delimitation and demarcation of borders between the Kingdom of Cambodia and her neighboring countries as well as with the objective to avoid and to end the incitement of extreme nationalism and ill-intention to cause confusion within national and international public opinions in order to make political gains by some quarters in Cambodia that may lead to catastrophe to the whole Cambodian national," Hun Sen writes.

He continues: “I strongly believe that for the cause of peace and stability in the region as well as with the high consideration on (sic) the well being of Cambodia and her people, who is a member of the United Nations, Your Excellency Secretary General would render cooperation with his request”.


The opposition has long accused the government of using maps developed with Vietnam in the 1980s to demarcate the border, which they say cedes Cambodian territory, instead of the French-developed ones, which are cited in Article 2 of the Kingdom's constitution.

Last week, senior official in charge of border affairs Var Kimhong presented a number of maps used for the ongoing demarcation, stating that while developed in concert with Vietnam following a 2005 border treaty, the maps matched the constitutionally mandated version, held by the UN.

Over the past month, the Cambodia National Rescue Party has fuelled a heightening of tensions over the border with Vietnam by highlighting examples of alleged Vietnamese encroachment into Ratanakkiri, Kandal and Svay Rieng provinces.

On Saturday, a Cambodian man was detained and allegedly beaten by Vietnamese authorities for leading students to inspect a disputed area in Svay Rieng’s Kampong Ro province.

On June 28, in the same area, a brawl erupted between an opposition-led group and Vietnamese authorities, prompting a fierce rebuke from Vietnam, which will form a joint committee with Cambodia to investigate the violence.

23 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ah Porg Kdor, Hun Sen! You are not a leader, but you are just a thief of the jungle, a real Khmer Rouges killer (Khmer Vietminh killer from Ho Chi Minh vs Pol Pot Khmer Rouges troops who were against Yuon/Vietcong encroachment and Vietcong's betrayal to Pol Pot), Yuon Hanoi puppet who loves power, money and protection from your Yuon/Vietnamese bosses in Hanoi.

This Porg Kkor Hun Sen has no shame. What is the world this one-eyed Yuon puppet Hun Sen doing at the UN for help. This is very phony.

Anonymous said...

Correction:

Ah Porng Kdor, Hun Sen! You are not a leader, but you are just a thief of the jungle, a real Khmer Rouges killer (Khmer Vietminh killer from Ho Chi Minh vs Pol Pot Khmer Rouges troops who were against Yuon/Vietcong encroachment and Vietcong's betrayal to Pol Pot), Yuon Hanoi puppet who loves power, money and protection from your Yuon/Vietnamese bosses in Hanoi.

This Porng Kkor Hun Sen has no shame. What is the world this one-eyed Yuon puppet Hun Sen doing at the UN for help. This is very phony.

Anonymous said...


DO NOT LET YUON AND HUN SEN TAKE THE CAMBODIA MAP OUT OF THE UNITED NATIONS.
THIS HYPOCRITE YUON AND HUN SEN WILL DESTROY IT.

HUN SESS

Anonymous said...

Youn is equivalent to the N-word. Those who use this term are racist, small-minded people, the world does not take them seriously and only think less of them, they will never play any significant role in international affairs.

Anonymous said...

''Youn is equivalent to the N-word '' [quote from the above poster]

you must be a F##king socialist who voted for the marxist, communist in the the white house right now....the N- word has been used by the black people themselves in their rap music...

Anonymous said...

Amidst all of these unsettled situations here on Khmerization, where were you Mr. 'Khmerization? We noticed that Mr. 'School of Vice' has been doing all the dirty works for you? Why? Are you that weak? Caving in to the Viet career-troller by the name of DrgunZet already? Why, why? Have the courage to tell us at least...


Anonymous said...

To the poster @7 July 2015 at 03:06,

Who taught you to think that "Youn" is equivalent to the "N-word." Yuon has been used as their identity from day one or their birth. There is nothing be equivalent between YUON AND N-WORD.

Killers are YUON (means Vietnamese or Dai Viet or Annam, Viet Nam, etc) have been playing victims because of the name calling "YUON" and want other people of America, European, Africa, etc feel sympathy with them, but those people of those continents have no ideas about "YUON" in the history or are gullible. Yeah, right, YUON OR Vietnamese have the opportunity to fool the people of the world or wriggle the story about themselves [YUON]. They [YUON] set up or accused the victims as the killers instead. Yes, YUON OR Vietnamese are so smart at doing the evil stuff and no moral.

OK Yuon is a killer because Yuon or Vietnamese themselves who killed or wiped out Cham (Champa) in Central Vietnam and took their land or country, currently control Southern Cambodia/Kampuchea Krom (today it called South Vietnam), killed Montagnard people (Highlander or Hill Tribes), currently doing secret colonization on Loas and Cambodia in the blind of eye of International Community, and beyond in this century.

Anonymous said...





បើមិនឣោយខ្មែរហៅយួនថា យួន តើឣោយខ្មែរហៅចិន ថាមិចទៅវិញ ពួកឣាឡប់?


Anonymous said...

I believe that there is one thing Khmers people can stop the Vietnamese Communist from stealing land is, Let China takes over of Vietnam then it's done! ...just a piece of cake...

Anonymous said...

Don't call Vietnam Yuon.

Call it thief or killer Vietnam or Ah Chor Yuon !!

Anonymous said...


THE UN MUST MAKE A COPY OF CAMBODIA MAP.

DO NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL COPY TO YUON AND HUN SEN. THEY WILL DESTROY IT OR THEY WILL SAY THE MAP GOT LOST. THEN WHAT CAN THE UN DO?

DON'T TRUST THE EVIL YUON.

CHHARY

Anonymous said...

Hi Poster @7 July 2015 at 11:24

You can say "DEADLY YUON" or "KILLER YUON" ( or "MONSTER YUON") instead of ONE WORD "YUON" because some people of the world (who don't know enough the histories of others.

Maybe another opinion from someone who might suggest.

Anonymous said...

Begin of Drgunzet's comment.

I can't wait to see Khmer settle the border with the Thais. Khmer will be so owned and crushed.

Oh no, most Khmer live near the East side at Vietnam border (for protection from the Thais). There are so few Khmer on the West side at Thailand border. Khmer will be heavily outnumbered and crushed by the Thais for sure.

-Drgunzet-

Anonymous said...

Eh drgunzet when ah hun sen is no longer in control of power ,Khmer can protect ourselves from siam and especially from youn expansionists. We are not so stupid .If you are so smart of an asshole ,why don't you go to live in srok youn from your comfortable Doise Idaho to get your freedom of expression . A bad mouth like you wouldn't last very long in commy srok youn.
Jackel

Anonymous said...


Will the shitnamese agreed to stop stealing the Khmer land, if we donate some dog shits to you all ?

Just answer the question above grud-on-shit.

Sincerely,
STUPID youn...

Anonymous said...

@7 July 2015 at 17:18
DO NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL COPY TO YUON AND HUN SEN. THEY WILL DESTROY IT OR THEY WILL SAY THE MAP GOT LOST. THEN WHAT CAN THE UN DO?
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So it's better for UN to trust a few racists than two legal governments (both recognized and was always UN's member) of 2 countries

#comcomWF

Anonymous said...

@7 July 2015 at 09:34
Who taught you to think that "Youn" is equivalent to the "N-word."
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Cambodian, Cambodian racist, you yourself ('Killers are YUON'), Cambodia's government, the Media, Vietnamese and Vietnam's govt, and the world

Are those enough?

#comcomWF

Anonymous said...

OK Yuon is a killer because Yuon or Vietnamese themselves who killed or wiped out Cham (Champa) in Central Vietnam and took their land or country, currently control Southern Cambodia/Kampuchea Krom (today it called South Vietnam), killed Montagnard people (Highlander or Hill Tribes), currently doing secret colonization on Loas and Cambodia in the blind of eye of International Community, and beyond in this century.
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- In the ancient times when the weak die and the strong grow it's quite normal. If you blame Vietnamese 'is a killer' because they expanded their territories then you better blame everyone else including Khmer Empire

- South Vietnam was given to Vietnamese by Cambodian kings. Anyway if you're going to claim it then the Roman can also claim Mediterranean

- For the 'currently doing secret colonization on Loas and Cambodia in the blind of eye of International Community, and beyond in this century.' pls provide sources nor evidence. Also I doubt Vietnamese capacity to virtually blinded the entire world and the world knowledge to not realize what you're claiming!

#comcomWF

Anonymous said...

8 July 2015 at 13:18.

Hey fucking Youn, we Khmer are not blaming the Roman. We Khmer are blaming you Youn for your evil acts against our kindness toward your people.

Our King and our people were not weak. Our King was tricked and eventually killed, you fucking evil youn also tricked the world and told peopel he died of old age and given you fucking evil Youn our land, which is not true at all.

Throughout our kindness toward you, you fucking evil youn continued to kill us for our land. Even with the evidence today, you fuckign Youn denied the killings of our people and denied your role in the genocide behidn the killing field.

You fucking Youn can go on about Roman and Greek all you want. But one day you fucking Youn will pay, it is every Khmer wishes to see you eat Karma.

Anonymous said...

Dear Khmer and Foreign readers:

Please just be aware of #comcomWF has been cloned from drgunzet who is based in Boise, Idaho, USA.

Khmer Yeourng

Anonymous said...

Hey fucking Youn, we Khmer are not blaming the Roman. We Khmer are blaming you Youn for your evil acts against our kindness toward your people.
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Let them hate us so long as they fear us'
Roman general and later emperor Tiberius

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Our King and our people were not weak.
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You was, the Thai shattered both Angkor and Udong several times after all.

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Throughout our kindness toward you, you fucking evil youn continued to kill us for our land.
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http://www.localhistories.org/cambodia.html

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CAMBODIA IN THE 19th CENTURY
In the early 19th century King Chan (1806-1834) turned to the Vietnamese for protection from the Thais! The Thais were annoyed by this policy and when a rebellion occurred in south Vietnam in 1833 they took advantage by invading Cambodia. However the Vietnamese king crushed the rebellion and the Thai army retreated.

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Even with the evidence today, you fuckign Youn denied the killings of our people and denied your role in the genocide behidn the killing field.
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Again I demand your 'evidences'

Oh and why should Vietnamese deny their role in Cambodia genocide, they was the (only) once who stopped it!

#comcomWF

Anonymous said...

Khmer Yeourng,
Stop posting the guy address. No need to glorify him. Idiot!

Anonymous said...

So many stupid Khmer here. No wonder why the world does not give a shit about Cambodia. So unimportant people. So racist!